I also didn't put Dallas Johnson down not a bad player I guess





I agree with the best players come the top games but I'd much rather see a few youngsters played against France.

In the French test i'd like to see us select what I believe is our best backline and maybe experiment a little in the forwards. I think we know we have lots of quality in the pack and we may aswell look at a few new options because going forward that can only help us but in the backline we simply don't have the depth or options to take a look at people.



I'd select-



L Pryce

Cudjoe

Gleeson

Shenton

Hall

S Tomkins

Eastmond

Graham

Roby

Lynch

J Tomkins

Harrison

O'Loughlin



subs

Crabtree

Scruton

Langley

Lunt(hopefully he can build his match fitness up before the game).



It won't be that side as both Ellis and Burgess are coming back over for the game but I really don't see the point and I also don't see the need to play guys like Morley or Peacock(if he were fit). I'd love to see us give a shot to somebody like Cudjoe on that right wing aswell. I'm pretty convinced that bar that right wing spot our best backline is the one i've selected and I really can't think of too many players that could feel hard done by at being left out.

I know it's the best we've got but that again is a poor backline IMO and we don't stand a chance.



Think how far we've slipped since 2006 when we had backs like Carney, Radders, Long and a younger Gleeson, Senior and Pryce! Top it off with Faz, Scully, Morley, Peacock, KFC and Newton and you see how far we've fallen.



Us, Leeds and Saints are doing or have done their part for national RL when are the other sides gonna step up?

I think we need to continue the game against france and help them develop!

In development terms i'm as happy with the game as I have been in a long time but I agree that the outside backs are a worry. We've outstanding pack and halfback talents come through in the past couple of years like Sam, Eastmond, Myler, Burgess, Joel Tomkins, Harrison etc but we just don't seem to be producing quality outside backs and thats a real worry. If we look at our 2 overseas wingmen/fullbacks in Roberts and Richards we don't have any English players half as good as those 2 in either position and considering neither have any Australian caps that shows what an embarrassment of riches they have when compared to oursleves.



We really need to start producing some top quality outside backs with size, pace and power like guys like Roberts and Richards have. It's probably the reason i'd select somebody like Cudjoe over higher scoring wingmen like Hodgson, Riley and Goulding. He is a decent size and has good pace aswell as being very safe when fielding kicks. He has alot of development left in him aswell imo.

Did you see Cudjoe on the TV in the challenge cup, he couldn't hold the ball for toffee ?

I think an Super League - Rest Of World side would get battered in the forwards, one thing we do seem to do pretty well is produce forwards, the best imports are backs and half backs.

I've always though we should let France have a 3 game series. 1 game against Lancashire, 1 game against Yorkshire, then a final game against England.

It would give France more games and a better chance to be competetive and it would also allow us to trail a few more english players in the first two games and reward the top performers with an England cap in the final game.

4 years ago apart from Hall that could have been the australian pack.

monas best 9 in sl

There has been a real decline in the last few years in the quality of the SL.



I'm surprised the usual suspects who try to argue everything in the Super Duper League garden is rosy haven't responded to your post but perhaps the evidence is now so damning that even the most shameless apologists for the status quo are now keeping a low profile....

I'd rather help us develop.



I've always liked the "rest of SL" idea, but I'd include some of the French forwards in that team posted in the OP.

I reckon in austrailia, someone like Joel Tomkins would be coming through as a centre, maybe moving in later in his career.

I agree, and think he could excel there. When Madge played him at centre for a while a few games ago I thought the impact he had was very good. He's got a fair amount of pace for a 2nd rower, and has very good handling skills.

imo the england side is quite poor.

Our 3/4 line is terrible, we havent got two international centres together that could deal with one greg inglis, let alone inglis, folau, hayne, slater, the morris brothers... the list goes on.



I would like to see widdop play though, he could be an awesome addition to our side.

That would be unfair on Catalans.

Yes, i suppose it would. I think it would be worth it though.

Maybe a double header could suit everyone, England v SL Rest, France v Wales in June, England v Wales, France v SL Rest in October.



Play them mid-season and before the autumn international. Leading up to 2013 world cup would give all eligible players a bit more international gametime.

The whole Huddersfield side had a shocker to be fair including superleagues man of steel and usually as safe as houses Brett Hodgson.



I like Cudjoe tbh. He isn't of the standard of some of the great wingers of the past like Robinson or even guys like Carney but he's just about the best we've got after Ryan Hall at the moment.

Why would we have to reduce the number of teams to 10/12, abit extreme. Scrap the magic weekend and then were only 2 games ahead of the Aussies, who back up after every origin and no one complains over there, so why cant the Superleague guys do the same? The games would be pointless at all and would decimate those games.

Peacock says we should give this a go as well.



Maybe some of the top brass will listen to the England captain?



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What harm would giving it a go do? If the RFL backed it and said for the next 5 years this is what we are doing and we are gonna throw our marketing teams at it and make sure the clubs release their players as well.

it doesn't just have to be a rest of the world team it could include english players who've been overlooked but the 'rest of the world' team coach may like the look of them. They would have a point to prove against their opposite number.



the stumbling block would be getting teams to release their 'stars'. leeds could have to release Webb, Eastwood, Lauititi, Peacock, Buderus, Sinfield, Mcguire. Thats quite a lot of players to risk an injury to.

I didn’t even think about the English players who haven’t been selected! Obviously the more quality players that are eligible the stronger the comp will be.



In regards to making it ok with the clubs I’m sure something could be worked out.

My team including English players not selected for England against France.



The pack is a little weaker than Englands but O'Meley, Coley, Dallas Johnson & Buderus are just as good as the English players imo.



FB Webb

WG Roberts

C Gidley

C King

WG Richards

SO Kearney

SH Dobbo

P O'Meley

H Buderus

P Coley

S Galea

S Fitzgibbon

LF D.Johnson



Lynch

Monghan

Crabtree

Eastwood

I've always liked the idea of playing a "rest of SL" side - it would be a much sterner test than France, and a much better preparation for games against NZ & OZ - and I think it would be better supported.



Have it instead of the Magic weekend and there's no issue with taking players away from their club game.



I'd definitely pay to watch us play a side something like this:



Webb

Roberts

King

Gidley

Richards



Kearney

Sammut



Ferriol

Buderus

Carlaw

Lauititi

Manu

Menzies